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		<title>By: Mahala Mazerov</title>
		<link>http://luminousheart.com/2009/meditation-on-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahala Mazerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 04:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Karilee, thank you so much for visiting and commenting.

I appreciate the depth of your response, but I&#039;m not entirely certain I understand. 

Are you talking about being depressed or numb and you can&#039;t feel yourself wanting anything? In that case when it passes, when you feel some spark of life and it includes a wish for things, I can understand the gratitude. But the space I was in was clinging and conflicted and it was that &lt;i&gt;attachment&lt;/i&gt; that created my suffering. 

To be able to wish and hope and look forward can be joyful. If one can stay content whether one&#039;s desires are met or not seems to be the ground of a truly grateful life.

How&#039;s that for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Karilee, thank you so much for visiting and commenting.</p>
<p>I appreciate the depth of your response, but I&#8217;m not entirely certain I understand. </p>
<p>Are you talking about being depressed or numb and you can&#8217;t feel yourself wanting anything? In that case when it passes, when you feel some spark of life and it includes a wish for things, I can understand the gratitude. But the space I was in was clinging and conflicted and it was that <i>attachment</i> that created my suffering. </p>
<p>To be able to wish and hope and look forward can be joyful. If one can stay content whether one&#8217;s desires are met or not seems to be the ground of a truly grateful life.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Karilee</title>
		<link>http://luminousheart.com/2009/meditation-on-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-565</link>
		<dc:creator>Karilee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 06:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave is wise, and said told us we really needed to read this. So here I am, enjoying the grace of your words. It was good for me to read them today.

What confuses me is that while I agree with your definition of suffering, and I resonate with your experience of lacking the life energy that others take for granted, I&#039;ve also had times of being unable to &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt;. So while your wanting disturbed your serenity to some degree... isn&#039;t it also a cause for gratitude, even if the want couldn&#039;t be fulfilled in the way you most desired? I guess I&#039;m not comfortable believing that the only choices were adversity as the path, or suffering in the name of desire, unless of course that was your preference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave is wise, and said told us we really needed to read this. So here I am, enjoying the grace of your words. It was good for me to read them today.</p>
<p>What confuses me is that while I agree with your definition of suffering, and I resonate with your experience of lacking the life energy that others take for granted, I&#8217;ve also had times of being unable to <i>want</i>. So while your wanting disturbed your serenity to some degree&#8230; isn&#8217;t it also a cause for gratitude, even if the want couldn&#8217;t be fulfilled in the way you most desired? I guess I&#8217;m not comfortable believing that the only choices were adversity as the path, or suffering in the name of desire, unless of course that was your preference.<br />
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		<title>By: Mahala Mazerov</title>
		<link>http://luminousheart.com/2009/meditation-on-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahala Mazerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa, hi! Love your blog and your new ukelele song.

Dave&#039;s post was great, wasn&#039;t it? http://www.rockyourday.com/abandon-your-rescue-fantasy/ It was so generous of him to link to this post of mine.

I expect we&#039;re always going to be walking that line between creating and trying to stay unattached to the outcome. Just as Dave said we need to let go of our rescue fantasies, this is yet another responsibility, isn&#039;t it? 

But it &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; result in more happiness, just as clinging brings more suffering.

&quot;I aim to allow things to be as they are, while continually working to move forward.&quot; Words of wisdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa, hi! Love your blog and your new ukelele song.</p>
<p>Dave&#8217;s post was great, wasn&#8217;t it? <a href="http://www.rockyourday.com/abandon-your-rescue-fantasy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rockyourday.com/abandon-your-rescue-fantasy/</a> It was so generous of him to link to this post of mine.</p>
<p>I expect we&#8217;re always going to be walking that line between creating and trying to stay unattached to the outcome. Just as Dave said we need to let go of our rescue fantasies, this is yet another responsibility, isn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>But it <em>does</em> result in more happiness, just as clinging brings more suffering.</p>
<p>&#8220;I aim to allow things to be as they are, while continually working to move forward.&#8221; Words of wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Dinwiddie</title>
		<link>http://luminousheart.com/2009/meditation-on-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Navarro recommended this post in an email today, and I&#039;m so glad I clicked through. Thank you for writing so eloquently about this subject. I have found that the more I&#039;m able to allow things to be as they are, the happier I&#039;m able to be.

Because I&#039;m an ambitious person, though, with lots of creative desires and goals, it&#039;s a difficult line to walk! I see the power of letting go of attachments, and yet I want to create and achieve! In my own life, I aim to allow things to be as they are, while continually working to move forward. 

Challenging, to say the least. And when life throws obstacles in the way, as it invariably does, even more challenging. 

I like your idea that taking adversity as the path is far easier than creating suffering in the name of desire. 

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Navarro recommended this post in an email today, and I&#8217;m so glad I clicked through. Thank you for writing so eloquently about this subject. I have found that the more I&#8217;m able to allow things to be as they are, the happier I&#8217;m able to be.</p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m an ambitious person, though, with lots of creative desires and goals, it&#8217;s a difficult line to walk! I see the power of letting go of attachments, and yet I want to create and achieve! In my own life, I aim to allow things to be as they are, while continually working to move forward. </p>
<p>Challenging, to say the least. And when life throws obstacles in the way, as it invariably does, even more challenging. </p>
<p>I like your idea that taking adversity as the path is far easier than creating suffering in the name of desire. </p>
<p>Thank you!<br />
<span class="cluv">Melissa Dinwiddie&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/LivingACreativeLife/~3/qL_yn07eE7E/">The Number One Problem Most Artists Have- Plus the Unveiling of My Debt Elimination Project</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip -1" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://luminousheart.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Mahala Mazerov</title>
		<link>http://luminousheart.com/2009/meditation-on-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahala Mazerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda, thank  you! It&#039;s so amazing to think this post continues to feed your thoughts in so many directions. Just yesterday I was thinking how fast everything is moving, how a blog post makes an appearance for a week or two and then disappears forever. It is so gratifying to think that may not be the case.

Thanks, too, for your kind wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, thank  you! It&#8217;s so amazing to think this post continues to feed your thoughts in so many directions. Just yesterday I was thinking how fast everything is moving, how a blog post makes an appearance for a week or two and then disappears forever. It is so gratifying to think that may not be the case.</p>
<p>Thanks, too, for your kind wishes.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://luminousheart.com/2009/meditation-on-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for this post.  I keep coming back to it repetedly with different thoughts in mind.  It applies so much to everything in my life.  It is hard to take the path of adversity, but I do create a lot of my own suffering because I want things to be different, better, whatever, now!

I am sorry for your hardship and hope that things get better for you.

Namaste
.-= Amanda&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://dragonflykiss.blogspot.com/2009/12/i-think-ill-dance.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Think I&#039;ll Dance&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this post.  I keep coming back to it repetedly with different thoughts in mind.  It applies so much to everything in my life.  It is hard to take the path of adversity, but I do create a lot of my own suffering because I want things to be different, better, whatever, now!</p>
<p>I am sorry for your hardship and hope that things get better for you.</p>
<p>Namaste<br />
<span class="cluv"> Amanda&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://dragonflykiss.blogspot.com/2009/12/i-think-ill-dance.html" rel="nofollow">I Think I&#8217;ll Dance</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://luminousheart.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Mahala Mazerov</title>
		<link>http://luminousheart.com/2009/meditation-on-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahala Mazerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mona, Bess &amp; Hazel for the kind comments you left here some time ago. 

&lt;b&gt;Mona&lt;/b&gt; ~ You are such an inspiration on the subject of taking good and kind care of oneself. I&#039;m happy to see your vibrant healthy face and hope all your health challenges are behind you now.

&lt;b&gt;Bess&lt;/b&gt; ~ When I share my experiences here, I&#039;m not really looking for advice. But I appreciate your thoughts just the same. You mentioned &quot;What would Buddhas or Bodhisattvas do?&quot; That question is always paramount in my mind. Unfortunately in this case it was the &lt;i&gt;principle&lt;/i&gt; reason for my complicated thought process as the proposed trip was to receive teachings from my heart&#039;s Lama. (Had this been just a vacation, I simply would have cancelled and rescheduled.)  A Buddha or Bodhisattva would make effort for the sake of Dharma &lt;i&gt;without a moments thought&lt;/i&gt; to the needs of their body. So, do I emulate them or focus on the physical needs of my body and the repercussions if I travel? 

I&#039;m not asking you to answer that question for me. I&#039;m simply pointing out that insights do not always lead to clear cut answers.

&lt;b&gt;Hazel&lt;/b&gt; As always, your words warm my heart. Your compassion flows so effortlessly. With palms together _(&#124;)_ I rejoice in your practices and their fruition. May all beings benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mona, Bess &#038; Hazel for the kind comments you left here some time ago. </p>
<p><b>Mona</b> ~ You are such an inspiration on the subject of taking good and kind care of oneself. I&#8217;m happy to see your vibrant healthy face and hope all your health challenges are behind you now.</p>
<p><b>Bess</b> ~ When I share my experiences here, I&#8217;m not really looking for advice. But I appreciate your thoughts just the same. You mentioned &#8220;What would Buddhas or Bodhisattvas do?&#8221; That question is always paramount in my mind. Unfortunately in this case it was the <i>principle</i> reason for my complicated thought process as the proposed trip was to receive teachings from my heart&#8217;s Lama. (Had this been just a vacation, I simply would have cancelled and rescheduled.)  A Buddha or Bodhisattva would make effort for the sake of Dharma <i>without a moments thought</i> to the needs of their body. So, do I emulate them or focus on the physical needs of my body and the repercussions if I travel? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not asking you to answer that question for me. I&#8217;m simply pointing out that insights do not always lead to clear cut answers.</p>
<p><b>Hazel</b> As always, your words warm my heart. Your compassion flows so effortlessly. With palms together _(|)_ I rejoice in your practices and their fruition. May all beings benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: hazel colditz</title>
		<link>http://luminousheart.com/2009/meditation-on-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>hazel colditz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mahala!
love/compassion! i just love reading your thoughts...so similar to my thoughts and yet different because of life experiences/karma. we do innately hold onto to many attachments within our own minds that cause so much suffering. bless you for sharing your light and wisdom.
 i am your 21st comment...
MAHALA you have an abundance of love following you...your words themselves inspire, teach and reach many sentient beings on many levels of spiritual progress! may you always be happy and free from suffering...my wish for you, i take happily and give back freedom from your suffering.
hazel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mahala!<br />
love/compassion! i just love reading your thoughts&#8230;so similar to my thoughts and yet different because of life experiences/karma. we do innately hold onto to many attachments within our own minds that cause so much suffering. bless you for sharing your light and wisdom.<br />
 i am your 21st comment&#8230;<br />
MAHALA you have an abundance of love following you&#8230;your words themselves inspire, teach and reach many sentient beings on many levels of spiritual progress! may you always be happy and free from suffering&#8230;my wish for you, i take happily and give back freedom from your suffering.<br />
hazel</p>
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		<title>By: Bess</title>
		<link>http://luminousheart.com/2009/meditation-on-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Bess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mahala, 

I enjoyed your post very much.  You&#039;ve illustrated the sufferings many people place on themselves, intentionally or unintentionally.  To this specific situation, it sounds like a struggle of interests and it seems you weren&#039;t ecstatic with the outcome either.  

To my understanding, the worries that trouble you may have to do with your attachment to conditions of the present and possible changes of the future, things that may or may not happen but haven&#039;t yet.  There are way too many &#039;what ifs&#039; in life.  How many can you possibly ponder and worry over?  One can only be as well-prepared for the future as possible, but one must live in the present, and presently, one should be happy and limit suffering.  The endless troubling thoughts that bother you creates stress and physical repercussions.

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a matter of leaping into the unknown, but rather how prepared you are in dealing with situations and still be at peace with what comes your way.  And in terms of releasing the attachments, I would suggest you see yourself in a second or even third person&#039;s perspective.  What would be the greatest compassionate action you would advise?  What is truly a greater good and more beneficial?  Or even ask, what would Buddhas and Boddhisattvas do?  Maybe with this practice or &#039;imitation&#039; of Buddhas and Boddhisattvas that we will soon be one and making decisions would be a breeze and worry-free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahala, </p>
<p>I enjoyed your post very much.  You&#8217;ve illustrated the sufferings many people place on themselves, intentionally or unintentionally.  To this specific situation, it sounds like a struggle of interests and it seems you weren&#8217;t ecstatic with the outcome either.  </p>
<p>To my understanding, the worries that trouble you may have to do with your attachment to conditions of the present and possible changes of the future, things that may or may not happen but haven&#8217;t yet.  There are way too many &#8216;what ifs&#8217; in life.  How many can you possibly ponder and worry over?  One can only be as well-prepared for the future as possible, but one must live in the present, and presently, one should be happy and limit suffering.  The endless troubling thoughts that bother you creates stress and physical repercussions.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a matter of leaping into the unknown, but rather how prepared you are in dealing with situations and still be at peace with what comes your way.  And in terms of releasing the attachments, I would suggest you see yourself in a second or even third person&#8217;s perspective.  What would be the greatest compassionate action you would advise?  What is truly a greater good and more beneficial?  Or even ask, what would Buddhas and Boddhisattvas do?  Maybe with this practice or &#8216;imitation&#8217; of Buddhas and Boddhisattvas that we will soon be one and making decisions would be a breeze and worry-free.</p>
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		<dc:creator>TIPs - June 14, 2009 &#124; Your Happiness Power</dc:creator>
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